Soul Care Essentials Series: 95Podcast 333 Summary – Pastoral Retirement: How to Finish Well and Start a New Season of Ministry (w/ Doug Bullock – Episode 333

Soul Care Essentials Series: 95Podcast 333 Summary – Pastoral Retirement: How to Finish Well and Start a New Season of Ministry (w/ Doug Bullock – Episode 333

Discover how pastors can prepare for retirement, deal with loss, and continue impactful ministry. Doug Bullock, author of New Dawn, shares insights on pastoral health, mentoring, and honoring both retiring and younger pastors in the local church.

Key Points In Brief

  • The reality of loss when pastors retire (community, ministry, identity, income, relationships)
  • Ten key questions retiring pastors must address (dealing with loss, redeeming pain, role in local church, life calling, stewarding experience, mentoring, continued growth, finances, family impact, view of the future)
  • The need for mutual honor between retiring and younger pastors
  • Practical steps for younger pastors to prepare now for retirement
  • The danger of staying too long without vision or financial preparation
  • Biblical perspective on retirement (Numbers 8 – Levites retiring at 50 but continuing to assist)

Key Resource: The Retreat at Church Creek – a pastoral retreat in South Carolina offering rest and renewal for pastors

Key Takeaways

  1. Retirement involves significant loss – When pastors retire, they lose their church, ministry, community, friends, income, status, relational connections, and often must leave their congregation entirely. This loss must be acknowledged and grieved.
  2. God still has a purpose for retired pastors – “If you got a pulse, he’s got a purpose for you.” Retirement isn’t the end of ministry; it’s a new season with fresh opportunities to serve, mentor, and impact the kingdom.
  3. Mutual honor is essential – For retired pastors to successfully integrate into local churches, both the retired pastor and current pastor must honor one another. The retired pastor must affirm the new leader’s authority; the younger pastor must value the older pastor’s experience.
  4. Start preparing now – Younger pastors should begin preparing for retirement today by: building financial stability, developing relationships with other pastors, identifying gifts that aren’t being used, dealing with pain currently (not letting it accumulate), and accepting that every pastor is an interim pastor.
  5. Stay current on soul care – Pastors must deal with pain and trauma as it happens, not let it build up over decades. Undelt-with pain leads to bitterness and regret in retirement.
  6. Only 1 in 4 pastors prepare well – Most pastors don’t adequately prepare for retirement financially or ministry-wise, often because they assume “God will provide” without taking practical steps.
  7. Hand off the church when it’s healthy – The best time to transition leadership is when the church is thriving, not when it’s declining. This requires planning ahead and thinking about succession before you’re forced to.
  8. 42% of pastors feel lonely – There’s a desperate need for retired pastors to mentor and encourage younger pastors. Starting a pastors’ group or reaching out for coffee can make a significant difference.
  9. Few resources exist – Very little has been written to help pastors navigate the biblical, theological, and practical issues of retirement, which is why Doug wrote New Dawn.
  10. Retirement is biblical – Numbers 8 shows Levites retiring from heavy labor at age 50 but continuing to assist their brothers in ministry. This is a picture of moving from leading to supporting.

Notable Quotes

On Loss in Retirement: “I lost everything you could lose except for connections with my family… My church, my ministry, everything I’ve ever known, the whole community, the friends I had, income, status, ministry, all of that gets tied together for a pastor.”

On God’s Continued Purpose: “If you got a pulse, he’s got a purpose for you. There’s still God has something for you.”

On the Reality of Interim Leadership: “Every pastor who comes along is an interim pastor because there’s another pastor coming after you.”

On Mutual Honor: “The reason or at least one reason why things don’t go well is because there’s not mutual honor… for the older pastor, mutual honor means saying, ‘Hey, you are the leader and how can I help you?'”

On Staying Too Long: “A lot of pastors reach that time where they’ve lost vision. They’re really have no plan for the church. They’re not excited about what they’re doing… but they will not step down because they didn’t prepare for retirement.”

On Dealing with Pain: “Make sure you stay current on dealing with your pain… what you don’t want to do is retire after 35 years of ministry and then just discover you have all this undelt with pain that has caused you to become bitter and angry and resentful.”

On When to Hand Off Leadership: “The objective is to hand it off when it’s healthy. You want to hand the church off when it’s going well… A lot of us wait till it starts back down the curve to begin to do that.”

On Covering Pain with Scripture: “I think there’s a lot oftentimes just just really not very clear thinking about the reality of the future. I think we cover it over with Bible verses sometimes.”

On God’s Faithfulness: “God hasn’t deserted us just because we’ve made poor decisions.”

On the Irony of Exclusion: “The sign out front says everyone’s welcome at our church except doesn’t say this except the senior pastor, the previous pastor.”

Next Steps

For Pastors Approaching Retirement:

  1. Get a copy of New Dawn by Doug Bullock – Work through the 10 key questions every retiring pastor must address
  2. Don’t face this alone – Reach out to Dale ([email protected]), Joseph ([email protected]), or Doug Bullock for guidance and support
  3. Start conversations now – Talk with your church leadership about succession planning before you’re forced to
  4. Deal with your pain – Seek counseling, coaching, or spiritual direction to process any unresolved hurt or trauma
  5. Identify your next assignment – Ask God what He wants you to do in this new season; consider mentoring, pastoral care, or supporting local pastors

For Younger Pastors:

  1. Start preparing financially today – Don’t wait until 60 to think about retirement; build savings and make wise financial decisions now
  2. Accept you’re an interim pastor – Recognize that someone will come after you; this isn’t a failure, it’s the natural rhythm of ministry
  3. Begin mentoring relationships now – Start a pastors’ group, reach out for coffee with fellow ministers, build community
  4. Stay current on soul care – Get counseling, find a mentor, invest in your spiritual and emotional health regularly
  5. Identify unused gifts – What gifts and talents do you have that aren’t being used in your current role? Develop these for future seasons
  6. Honor older pastors – If a retired pastor joins your church, see them as a resource, not a threat; communicate clearly and build mutual honor

For All Pastors:

  1. Visit The Retreat at Church Creek – Take advantage of this free pastoral retreat for rest, renewal, and connection
  2. Plan for succession – Whether you’re 35 or 65, think about healthy transitions and raising up leaders
  3. Build margin for Sabbath and rest – Leader health isn’t optional; prioritize time with God and self-care

Link To Podcast Audio: 95Podcast 333

 

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Q & A Transcript

Q: What is The Retreat at Church Creek?

Doug: “In 2021 after pastor Darren Patrick took his life, [Greg Surratt] started a nonprofit that bought this retreat 65 acres on the marsh here in South Carolina. And I’ve been helping him ever since. So we work with pastors at a pastoral retreat… It’s a retreat for pastors, pastors wives, women pastors, and it’s just great. We have about 70 retreats planned for this year.”

Q: What led you to write New Dawn?

Doug: “There is very little out there to help guide a retiring pastor figure out what he wants to do, what they want to do. There’s nothing to really help them think through the biblical theological issues that they face in this phase called retirement… So I basically did doctoral studies trying to determine what are the questions that a pastor who’s moving out of that key chair has to deal with if they want to finish their life well.”

Q: What are the 10 key questions in your book?

Doug listed:

  1. How do I deal with my losses?
  2. How do I redeem my pain?
  3. What’s my role in the local church?
  4. What do I do with my life calling?
  5. How can I steward my experience?
  6. How can I mentor younger pastors?
  7. How can I continue to grow?
  8. What’s my financial struggle?
  9. How’s my family going to be impacted?
  10. What’s my view of the future?

Q: What kind of loss do pastors face in retirement?

Doug: “My church, my ministry, everything I’ve ever known, the whole community, the friends I had, income, status, ministry, all of that gets tied together for a pastor. Everything’s tied together. And often times a pastor has to not simply retire, but they have to leave the church. And often times they might leave the community. So you’re just losing friends, purpose in life, something to do, relational connections, a ministry team.”

Q: Why is the book called New Dawn if it’s about retirement?

Doug: “You tend to think of retirement as a time of the setting sun… the whole point of the book is, hey, this is a new phase in life. This is a new day and there is still God has something for you and if you got a pulse, he’s got a purpose for you.”

Q: Is retirement biblical?

Doug: “There is of course a passage in Numbers 8 where the Levites are told that at a certain age at age 50 they were to retire… And then the text goes on to say, they may stay on and assist their brothers. And I love that picture because what it is, it’s a picture of the Levites choosing after age 50 to stay, I’m going to continue on in the leadership community, but I’m not going to have all the hard work that’s done by the younger men.”

Q: What are the benefits and cautions for a retired pastor joining a local church?

Doug: “The key to having a successful relationship in local church is the idea of honor… mutual honor means saying, ‘Hey, you are the leader and how can I help you?’ For the younger guy, honoring the older pastor [means asking] ‘What is it that you want to do? What is it that you can contribute?’ And it requires communication. It requires a relationship.”

Dale added: “I have not seen it done well very often at all… what happens is it’s like when the senior pastor steps down, he’s basically asked in a lot of cases to leave because the influence that he has had or she has had in their congregation the tendency of that congregation is to still run to them every time they need pastoring.”

Q: Why don’t pastors prepare better for retirement?

Doug: “I think we tell ourselves that God will provide and we see that if we sacrifice for the church and don’t demand or don’t communicate about our financial needs, we somehow see that as spiritual and believe that God will provide… I think there’s a lot oftentimes just just really not very clear thinking about the reality of the future. I think we cover it over with Bible verses sometimes.”

Q: What percentage of pastors prepare well for retirement?

Doug: “Maybe one out of four in terms of the total package, just kind of my guess. A lot of guys kind of figure it out, but there’s nothing there to really help them do that. They got to figure it out on their own.”

Q: What would you say to a pastor sitting at home in their first week of retirement feeling lost?

Doug: “God has a future for you. And if God has given you the ability to minister, if God has given you health, if God has given you energy, if God has given you life, God wants to use your life and he wants to use the gifts that you have and the experiences you’ve had. And there is a desperate need for pastors who are on the ball and willing to allow God to use them in some fresh and new way.”

Q: What advice do you have for younger pastors about preparing for retirement?

Doug:

  • “Obviously, there’s the financial side and that’s a given.”
  • “Understanding that you’re an interim pastor… every pastor who comes along is an interim pastor because there’s another pastor coming after you.”
  • “It’s pretty hard if you’re 65 and you’ve never mentored or encouraged another pastor to become a mentor of pastors. So start now… Start mentoring pastors.”
  • “Consider the days of your life so that you grow a heart of wisdom… just understand that yes, you’re getting older, but this is not going to last forever.”
  • “Make sure you stay current on dealing with your pain… what you don’t want to do is retire after 35 years of ministry and then just discover you have all this undelt with pain that has caused you to become bitter and angry and resentful.”
  • “Sharpen your gifts and try to figure out okay what is it that I want to do when I don’t have the responsibility of carrying the leadership mantle of this church what do I want to give the rest of my life to.”

Q: What about pastors who stay too long because they didn’t prepare financially?

Doug: “Obviously that’s a tragic situation and I think what I have found to be the most helpful thing is when the church recognizes it and owns this problem together… I think there are things that can be done such as having a pastor work part-time for the church and bringing in a different senior leader… there’s chaplaincy jobs… But you just have to recognize the problem and tackle it head on.”

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