In this practical episode of the 95 Podcast, Dale and Joseph sit down with volunteer expert Mary Ann Sibley to kick off a five-part series on preparing churches for Easter. Mary Ann shares her powerful testimony of being served in a church parking lot by a smiling volunteer that ultimately led to her salvation.
Our discussion reveals why the service truly starts before people enter the building. The conversation explores how to shift from recruiting volunteers out of need to building mission-focused teams through relationship, how to have difficult conversations with volunteers in the wrong roles, and why churches must stop doing 20 things poorly to focus on 1-2 things well.
With Easter bringing a surge of spiritually hungry young families back to church, this episode provides actionable strategies for small and mid-size churches to care for volunteers, create meaningful connections, and prepare for maximum impact during the most critical season of the year.
Links to Resources Mentioned or Related
- Website: Mary Ann Sibley.com
- Email Mary Ann
- Easter Devotional From Fishhook
- Link to NEW! Soul Care Essentials Online: 3-Session Video Series
- Link to NEW! Soul Care Essentials Cohort: 6 Weeks of Guided Conversations for Post-Conference Groups
- 95Network – Soul Care Essentials
- 95Network – Healthy Church Assessment
- Read Stalled: Hope and Help for Pastors Who Thought They’d Be There By Now
- Watch Podcast on YouTube
Key Takeaways
1. The Mission Starts Before the Front Door. Mary Ann’s salvation story proves that volunteers in the parking lot are not just helpers—they’re the front line of evangelism. A smiling face, an orange vest, and a welcoming gesture literally changed the trajectory of her eternal life. Churches must train volunteers to understand that hospitality isn’t about logistics; it’s about being Jesus to people who are nervous, skeptical, and looking for a reason to leave. First impressions aren’t just important—they’re potentially life-changing.
2. Shift From Vision-Fulfillment to People-Equipping. The attractional/seeker movement left us with a leadership model where everyone serves to fulfill the pastor’s vision. But Ephesians 4 says the job of pastors is to equip saints to do ministry. Volunteers aren’t just volunteers—they’re the saints of the church, the army God has given you. Your job isn’t to get them to do things; it’s to steward, equip, disciple, and love them so well that they can’t help but overflow that love to others. When you focus on the people God has already given you, they become the mission, not just servants of the mission.
3. Prayer and Assessment Must Come Before Programs. Before adding another Easter program or event, pray deeply about your mission and honestly assess where you are. Ask your volunteers the hard question: “Who is that one person you’re praying for that if they walked in, you’d fall on your face thanking God?” If a room of key volunteers can’t answer, you’ve become focused on yourselves, your programs, and feeling good about each other—you’ve forgotten the mission. Only 31% of Christians strongly believe they have a responsibility to share their faith. This isn’t a programming problem; it’s a heart problem that requires prayer and honest assessment.
4. Build Leadership Structures That Scale Relationship. Jesus led 12. You can’t personally shepherd everyone, especially as a small church pastor already stretched thin. Build a leadership structure where you pour deeply into 5-10 key leaders who then shepherd volunteers shoulder-to-shoulder. Two leaders are better than one—they can check each other’s bad days and provide accountability. Relationships build trust, and trust is the currency for difficult conversations. Without this structure, you’ll burn out trying to do everything, or volunteers will feel neglected and leave.
5. Stop Recruiting Out of Need; Start From Mission Clarity. Need is not a strategy, and neither is hope. When you desperately beg for volunteers from the stage, someone finally says “okay,” you stick them in the nursery, and then you never check on them for three years until you find Sister Jane’s skeleton in the rocking chair. Serving is not sentencing. Instead, build relationships over 30-minute coffees, discover people’s passions and gifts, invite them with clarity that you’re asking for meaningful mission-focused ministry with responsibility and accountability—not calendar keeping. When you recruit from mission and relationship, people stick.
6. Simplify Your Strategy to 1-2 Things Done Well. The average church in America is 75 people, and they’re trying to offer 15 different ministry emphases like a church of 1,000. This wears out your key 20% who end up doing everything. You can’t offer what you can’t sustain. Sit with your leadership, pray, fast, and identify the 1-2 things you do really well that align with your community and culture. Then strip away everything else. When people complain about what you’re not doing, invite them to lead it. This focus allows your volunteers to thrive instead of burning out.
7. Care, Conversation, Connection, and Clarity. The four-point framework for healthy volunteer ministry:
(1) Care genuinely about your people, not just what they can do for you.
(2) Have ongoing Conversations about how they’re doing, what they need, struggles at home, in marriage, with kids—be in their whole lives.
(3) This leads to Connection where they’re connected to the Lord, their calling, and what God wants to do through them.
(4) But also bring Clarity that you’re inviting them to mission-focused meaningful ministry, not task-completion. This framework transforms volunteer culture from transactional to transformational.
8. Have the Conversation Before There’s a Problem. You can’t wait for something negative to happen before talking to volunteers. Schedule regular check-ins not just about their area of service but about their lives. When you know what’s happening in their marriage, with their kids, at their job, you’ll spot problems before they become crises. If someone is in the wrong role, sit down and say, “I think so highly of you, but I’m seeing a disconnect—tell me what’s going on.” Your motivation must be love first, not role-filling. Sometimes the most loving thing is giving someone permission to step back.
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