Dale Sellers and Joseph Bennett sit down with airline pilot, pastor, and leadership strategist Michael McFadden to explore what it means to “fly in front of the plane”—leading proactively instead of reactively. Drawing from cockpit disciplines, Michael shows how preparation, checklists, and margin help leaders stay steady when pressure rises, rather than scrambling to catch up in the moment.

The conversation unpacks why preparation beats panic, how healthy leaders stabilize before they try to solve problems, and why margin—time, energy, and spiritual health—is non-negotiable. Michael also reframes turbulence, not as failure, but as a normal part of the journey that requires humility and an adjusted pace. Along the way, they highlight the importance of accountability as protection, not pressure, and the need to stay attentive to the voice of God amid noise and distraction.

This episode offers a practical and powerful framework for pastors who want to lead with clarity, calm, and confidence—especially when ministry feels unpredictable.

About Michael: Michael K. McFadden, also known as Pilot Mike, is a dynamic speaker, leadership trainer, entrepreneur, and private pilot with over 25 years of aviation and leadership experience. Using flight as a metaphor for personal development and purpose-driven leadership, Michael has inspired thousands through keynotes, coaching programs, and digital resources rooted in his original 12-Point In-Flight Leadership Plan. He is the founder of The Leadership Training Company and the author of three influential books. Through his speaking, books, and coaching, Michael equips entrepreneurs, student leaders, educators, and executives to navigate uncertainty, master their mindset, and soar toward their highest potential.