It’s kind of crazy, but this podcast has almost been around for 2 years! 84 episodes ago, we had a really great conversation with Tony Morgan, founder of The Unstuck Group, as we walk through 10 characteristics of unstuck churches. This was pre-pandemic and is a great conversation to ground us and remind us of our purpose and our direction.
The 95Podcast
Practical conversations for small and midsize church leaders.
Hosted by Dale Sellers, Executive Director of 95Network and former small church pastor, the 95Podcast addresses the real challenges pastors face every week—from church health, leadership clarity, to the everyday realities of leading without large staff or large budgets. These are straightforward conversations rooted in experience, not theory.
New episodes release every Tuesday wherever you listen to podcasts or delivered straight to your inbox.
The Difficult Dynamics for a Pastor’s Wife (w/ Donna Lewis) – Episode 87
Donna Lewis and her husband, Bobby, have been in ministry for decades and are church planters of RiverPoint Church. Bobby is actually a coach and conference facilitator here at 95Network, and Donna has a huge passion to support pastors’ wives. In this episode, she openly shares about the loneliness of feeling unseen, what it’s like to feel like the church is the “other woman,” why avoiding the issue isn’t a solution, her encouragement to both male pastors and pastors’ wives, and more.
Jon Sanders on Opportunity for the Church, Finding an Abundance Mindset, and Why He Personally Invests in Coaching – Episode 86
Jon Sanders is the Founder of Small Town Big Church, a full-time firefighter, and is also the Director of Coaching here at 95Network. He is one of our favorite leaders in the world… a straight-shooter with a huge heart for church leaders and developing systems that help leaders thrive.
Understanding & Leveraging Technology for Ministry (w/ Paul Johnson) – Episode 85
Paul Johnson is Co-Founder & CEO of Pathwright, an all-in-one design, learning, and teaching platform. He is an incredible innovator and a thoughtful leader. In today’s episode, he shares his theology of technology, what’s encouraged him and discouraged him about the Church over the past year and a half, the incredible value available for us in leveraging technology, the negative ways technology can shape us, and so much more.
Sabbatical & Small-Church Pastors – Episode 84
On today’s episode, Austin and I are sharing some reflections on the decision for me to go on sabbatical, the heartache we feel for pastors who don’t feel like this would ever be an option, and the hope for small-church pastors to replenish.
How Churches Can Become More Entrepreneurial (w/ Stephanie Leathe) – Episode 83
Stephanie is the CEO of Altar Live, a new partner of ours here at 95Network focused on helping churches navigate a hybrid model of ministry. In this episode, we talk about Stephanie’s story, the culture shock she experienced in American churches, how churches can become more entrepreneurial, the real opportunity each of us have online, and so much more! Listen in!
The Unseen Emotional Impact of the Pandemic on Pastors (w/ Karl Vaters) – Episode 82
We’re setting a record on The 95 Podcast today… We’re welcoming back a guest for the THIRD TIME! Karl Vaters is joining us back on the show for an incredible conversation that I truly can’t wait to share with you.
Your Small Church is a BIG Deal (w/ Chris Vitarelli) – Episode 81
Chris Vitarelli is the pastor of The Road Community Church, a small multi-site church in Fenton and Howell, MI. He is the creator of the Small Church BIG Deal Conference and author of Small Church BIG Deal: How to Rethink Size, Success and Significance in Ministry.
Jimmy Dodd on Why Pastors Fall, Every Leader’s Primary Ministry, and the Most Common Lie Our Enemy Whispers to Pastors – Episode 80
Today, Jimmy Dodd shares why so many pastors fall, what they consistently are hearing from leaders at PastorServe, what separates remorse and repentance, and the most common lies the Enemy whispers to church leaders.
How to Love Your Neighbor (w/ Jonathan Weibel & Steve Lutz) – Episode 79
Imagine a movement of people loving their neighbors that leads to revival and renewal in our churches, our cities, and our world. That’s exactly what Jonathan Weibel & Steve Lutz are pursuing through Front Yard Mission.
God’s Not Done (w/ Tracy Hamilton) – Episode 78
We’ve got a different type of podcast today, and it’s one I’m so grateful to be able to share with you. I’ve known Tracy Hamilton, Lead Pastor of Tri-County Worship Center, for years. This past year was an especially tough one for him and his family as he lost his wife to cancer. I was out to lunch with him recently and he was sharing some things God has been teaching him as he has navigated this loss, and he was gracious enough to come on the podcast to share those things with you as well.
John Finkelde on Pastoral Transition, Working From Rest, and What He’s Been Sharing With Leaders – Episode 77
In this episode, John Finkelde shares incredible wisdom including how he navigated a healthy pastoral transition, what he’s been consistently sharing with leaders he’s coaching this last year, why you have to lead from a place of rest, and why your mission is deeper than church growth.





























